Poppy, do you have any additional thoughts about what we can do? Any knowledge from either of you about how potions might adversely interact with Confundus and Imperius would be very useful.
I have to agree with Severus with respect to anything beyond tea. Mind magics are tricky things, and there is always a danger that other treatments might magnify or twist them.
As for the after effects of Cruciatus, I would say that they should not be given the palliative unless they begin to show signs of cramping or seizures. Or if they begin to experience their emotional distress as physical pain (it might manifest as piercing headache, but they might also claim it pains their hearts).
Unfortunately, as the trauma of Cruciatus is a mental trauma rather than a properly physical one (the reaction of the body to perceived pain does, of course, result in secondary physical suffering, but the curse itself acts on the mind), it is very likely that the aftermath of that curse is amplifying whatever confundus type spell or potion she might also have administered. (Mr Jordan, if you know, I would appreciate your telling me: did she make them drink anything, do you know? Or was it a series of separate curses that she used?)
If you observe that their distress is sharply worsening rather than gradually easing, then we should talk again about the wisdom of giving them the palliative draught. Do keep it to hand, but do not give it unless I order it.
Thank you, Ma'am. No sign of cramping or seizures at all. Sometimes George gets a little shudder, but that's it.
It took about five minutes of questioning--they're still really confused--but she didn't make them drink anything, as best as we can tell.
Unless they've forgotten. Which I suppose is possible, too. Bugger. Sorry, ma'am.
It was two curses. One was the cruciatus; that was first. The second was whatever this hex is, which is mixed with confundus and obliviate, maybe. A complex spell. They remember the light from it was a really bright blue. She applied it when they were still hunched over in agony on the ground. The wretched bint.
Yeah, Neville and Ron have passed onto me that Sally-Anne Perks is wondering on the Institute's lock about a tea with chamomile and valerian and other soothing things. No a potion, just a calming herbal tea. She also thought about potions that affect memory, and forgetfulness potion, but given what Mr Snape said here, I won't give them those.
Let us know whether the tea would be all right. I'll hold off giving it to them until I hear from Mr Snape or Madam Pomfrey.
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Re: ORDER ONLY
Date: 2013-04-21 06:22 pm (UTC)Once you're able to return to the castle, I would very much appreciate your assessment.
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Date: 2013-04-21 06:25 pm (UTC)Re: ORDER ONLY
Date: 2013-04-21 08:10 pm (UTC)Lee, do you think they're still suffering from that?
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Date: 2013-04-21 08:11 pm (UTC)They're not complaining about aches, but then, they have other things on their minds.
I dunno. I'm inclined to be conservative about it, and not give it to them. But I'd be glad to hear from Madam Pomfrey.
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Date: 2013-04-21 09:03 pm (UTC)As for the after effects of Cruciatus, I would say that they should not be given the palliative unless they begin to show signs of cramping or seizures. Or if they begin to experience their emotional distress as physical pain (it might manifest as piercing headache, but they might also claim it pains their hearts).
Unfortunately, as the trauma of Cruciatus is a mental trauma rather than a properly physical one (the reaction of the body to perceived pain does, of course, result in secondary physical suffering, but the curse itself acts on the mind), it is very likely that the aftermath of that curse is amplifying whatever confundus type spell or potion she might also have administered. (Mr Jordan, if you know, I would appreciate your telling me: did she make them drink anything, do you know? Or was it a series of separate curses that she used?)
If you observe that their distress is sharply worsening rather than gradually easing, then we should talk again about the wisdom of giving them the palliative draught. Do keep it to hand, but do not give it unless I order it.
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Date: 2013-04-22 12:16 am (UTC)It took about five minutes of questioning--they're still really confused--but she didn't make them drink anything, as best as we can tell.
Unless they've forgotten. Which I suppose is possible, too. Bugger. Sorry, ma'am.
It was two curses. One was the cruciatus; that was first. The second was whatever this hex is, which is mixed with confundus and obliviate, maybe. A complex spell. They remember the light from it was a really bright blue. She applied it when they were still hunched over in agony on the ground. The wretched bint.
(Sorry, Mrs Weasley.)
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Date: 2013-04-21 07:45 pm (UTC)Let us know whether the tea would be all right. I'll hold off giving it to them until I hear from Mr Snape or Madam Pomfrey.
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Date: 2013-04-21 07:50 pm (UTC)And Lee... make sure Professor Dolohov stays far away.
He has shown his tendency to want to be helpful as of late, but in their current state, I fear how they'd react and what they would say.
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Date: 2013-04-21 08:12 pm (UTC)